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		<title>By: Hamza Khan</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamza Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good page about Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, which is updated regularly.

http://www.wikimir.com/raja-pervaiz-ashraf

One can clearly see how many times this guy has just blurred out whatever comes first. This is the second time he has given a deadline for elimination of loadshedding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good page about Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, which is updated regularly.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wikimir.com/raja-pervaiz-ashraf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikimir.com/raja-pervaiz-ashraf</a></p>
<p>One can clearly see how many times this guy has just blurred out whatever comes first. This is the second time he has given a deadline for elimination of loadshedding.</p>
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		<title>By: Anas Imtiaz</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas Imtiaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that case, good luck resolving world issues :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that case, good luck resolving world issues <img src='http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brickwall</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Brickwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unsure if this is an issue I would like to talk out to any length. I can carry on with this back and forth as to which analogy actually fits here or why should it sound so abnormal if a cabinet minister takes the role of a PM rather than a section head etc. But to what end? There are other more important issues to be resolved in this world and I should spare whatever left of my energy for that.

But your thoughts did enrich that of my own and you have my gratitude for that. Have a nice time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unsure if this is an issue I would like to talk out to any length. I can carry on with this back and forth as to which analogy actually fits here or why should it sound so abnormal if a cabinet minister takes the role of a PM rather than a section head etc. But to what end? There are other more important issues to be resolved in this world and I should spare whatever left of my energy for that.</p>
<p>But your thoughts did enrich that of my own and you have my gratitude for that. Have a nice time!</p>
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		<title>By: Anas Imtiaz</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1318</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas Imtiaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the Intel example, it will not be the CEO who will be aware of the ins and outs of the technology. But the section leader (analogous to minister), who reports to the CEO (analogous to PM) will be aware of the whole thing.

Raja Ashraf is a section head and not the head of an organization if you are comparing that.

Since you have stated your idea about the head of organizations, this is where we differ.

A power policy is some thing that cannot be made by someone with no knowledge of electricity and technology. If you say we have working examples of success, also look at the working examples of failures (they don&#039;t work for that long and hence disappear).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the Intel example, it will not be the CEO who will be aware of the ins and outs of the technology. But the section leader (analogous to minister), who reports to the CEO (analogous to PM) will be aware of the whole thing.</p>
<p>Raja Ashraf is a section head and not the head of an organization if you are comparing that.</p>
<p>Since you have stated your idea about the head of organizations, this is where we differ.</p>
<p>A power policy is some thing that cannot be made by someone with no knowledge of electricity and technology. If you say we have working examples of success, also look at the working examples of failures (they don&#8217;t work for that long and hence disappear).</p>
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		<title>By: Brickwall</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Brickwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because ministry of finance, foreign affairs etc are &#039;essentially&#039; like think tanks. And as a general statement, I doubt if we would find anywhere in the world a think tank working on, say public policy, but headed and led by someone who is a good PM but doesn&#039;t know more than a tad about it. And I hope we recognize the distinction between think tanks and organizations of the other type.

I don&#039;t mean that we have 45nm buzz without any issues. But that is not what I am highlighting, I want you to think how large is the possibility that intel&#039;s CEO has been taken in on it? Is it because he knows inside out of the process and technology so he can verify, if the need be, everything on his own and that&#039;s what keeps his researchers from bluffing?

About your specific example, raja ashraf or any head of that organization doesn&#039;t need to verify anything by himself on a technical level. But he surely can know if the targets are being met, as the reports suggest, by seeing the output just like anyone else in the public. I would be surprised or shocked rather if he starts believing that power generation requirements of the country have been met while we are having load-shedding during winters.

And no your assumption about my opinion is not correct. I am against the idea that EVERY organization should be headed by someone specifically trained to do the business that organization deals in and as well as the proposition that a person with leadership skills is all we need to manage ANY organization. My opinion is that it is wrong to issue blanket statements and that we have enough working examples out there to think that the requirements for the top post can vary depending on the nature of organization under consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because ministry of finance, foreign affairs etc are &#8216;essentially&#8217; like think tanks. And as a general statement, I doubt if we would find anywhere in the world a think tank working on, say public policy, but headed and led by someone who is a good PM but doesn&#8217;t know more than a tad about it. And I hope we recognize the distinction between think tanks and organizations of the other type.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean that we have 45nm buzz without any issues. But that is not what I am highlighting, I want you to think how large is the possibility that intel&#8217;s CEO has been taken in on it? Is it because he knows inside out of the process and technology so he can verify, if the need be, everything on his own and that&#8217;s what keeps his researchers from bluffing?</p>
<p>About your specific example, raja ashraf or any head of that organization doesn&#8217;t need to verify anything by himself on a technical level. But he surely can know if the targets are being met, as the reports suggest, by seeing the output just like anyone else in the public. I would be surprised or shocked rather if he starts believing that power generation requirements of the country have been met while we are having load-shedding during winters.</p>
<p>And no your assumption about my opinion is not correct. I am against the idea that EVERY organization should be headed by someone specifically trained to do the business that organization deals in and as well as the proposition that a person with leadership skills is all we need to manage ANY organization. My opinion is that it is wrong to issue blanket statements and that we have enough working examples out there to think that the requirements for the top post can vary depending on the nature of organization under consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Anas Imtiaz</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1316</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas Imtiaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still unconvinced :) BTW the 45nm claim is correct with its set of issues (that&#039;s a completely different topic, which I love).

Why does finance minister have to a lot of thinking and power minister doesn&#039;t?

Raja Ashraf will definitely not need to go and check at site. But he definitely gets reports, how can he verify the integrity of those reports??

Am I right to assume here that your point is that to lead ANY team, the head must have leadership qualities, and that should suffice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still unconvinced <img src='http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  BTW the 45nm claim is correct with its set of issues (that&#8217;s a completely different topic, which I love).</p>
<p>Why does finance minister have to a lot of thinking and power minister doesn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Raja Ashraf will definitely not need to go and check at site. But he definitely gets reports, how can he verify the integrity of those reports??</p>
<p>Am I right to assume here that your point is that to lead ANY team, the head must have leadership qualities, and that should suffice?</p>
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		<title>By: Brickwall</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator>Brickwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under normal circumstances, he is going to know the same way as the Intel&#039;s CEO can know that his research team has been bluffing him all along by claiming to have developed 45nm fab.

The example of finance ministry doesn&#039;t really counter my proposition. I am saying that cabinet ministers don&#039;t necessary have to be technocrats and not that they necessarily have not to be a technocrat. In some cases, it is imperative as in finance ministry since the person responsible himself has to do a lot of thinking which cannot be just relegated to a technical team. But do you expect that someone in place of raja ashraf to actually go on the site and test against the benchmarks whether all the parameters of the generation plan have been met? At least I don&#039;t. It might be a good skill for him to possess but that is in no way necessary.

And the example of Steve Ballmer does fit in. Just like him, our superman raja parvez ashraf can also be a PM of his organization which is beaming with highly qualified engineers and technicians : ) But of course I am not sure about the competence of his team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under normal circumstances, he is going to know the same way as the Intel&#8217;s CEO can know that his research team has been bluffing him all along by claiming to have developed 45nm fab.</p>
<p>The example of finance ministry doesn&#8217;t really counter my proposition. I am saying that cabinet ministers don&#8217;t necessary have to be technocrats and not that they necessarily have not to be a technocrat. In some cases, it is imperative as in finance ministry since the person responsible himself has to do a lot of thinking which cannot be just relegated to a technical team. But do you expect that someone in place of raja ashraf to actually go on the site and test against the benchmarks whether all the parameters of the generation plan have been met? At least I don&#8217;t. It might be a good skill for him to possess but that is in no way necessary.</p>
<p>And the example of Steve Ballmer does fit in. Just like him, our superman raja parvez ashraf can also be a PM of his organization which is beaming with highly qualified engineers and technicians : ) But of course I am not sure about the competence of his team.</p>
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		<title>By: Anas Imtiaz</title>
		<link>http://blog.anasimtiaz.com/2009/01/12/are-they-qualified/comment-page-1/#comment-1314</link>
		<dc:creator>Anas Imtiaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have answered yourself here. Now assume that Raja Pervez Ashraf has a team of qualified techies. In case they;re bluffing him, how is he going to know? I&#039;m not asking for a PhD qualification, but he should be knowledgeable in his own ministry.

Why have Shaukat Tareen for finance then? Will Sherry Rehman be able to head it?

The example of Steve Ballmer doesn&#039;t fit in because he is required to manage something that is already so great. Also, he is like the PM of his organization who is required to have managerial skills. But on Ballmer&#039;s team, the leaders/heads of different departments (analogous to ministers) will definitely be qualified in their respective fields.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have answered yourself here. Now assume that Raja Pervez Ashraf has a team of qualified techies. In case they;re bluffing him, how is he going to know? I&#8217;m not asking for a PhD qualification, but he should be knowledgeable in his own ministry.</p>
<p>Why have Shaukat Tareen for finance then? Will Sherry Rehman be able to head it?</p>
<p>The example of Steve Ballmer doesn&#8217;t fit in because he is required to manage something that is already so great. Also, he is like the PM of his organization who is required to have managerial skills. But on Ballmer&#8217;s team, the leaders/heads of different departments (analogous to ministers) will definitely be qualified in their respective fields.</p>
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		<title>By: Brickwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brickwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But why do we think that a cabinet minister must necessary be a &#039;technical&#039; team-lead. He could well be in charge of other team-leads who are actually the ones responsible for executing projects. I personally don&#039;t find a great anomaly in there. And Bill gates might have proven his worth a couple of decades ago but as far as I know, he has been doing pure business management through out his tenure as microsoft&#039;s COE. Another case in hand is the present CEO Steve Ballmer. Check out his career path, if it piques your curiosity.

Nevertheless, I personally do favour someone with a technical grasp to be in place instead of raja parvez, who apparently doesn&#039;t know anything about anything. But the point is that our experimentation with different organizational structures specifically during the past half century suggests that perspicacity, dedication and sincerity matter a lot more than mere technical expertise for the person at the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why do we think that a cabinet minister must necessary be a &#8216;technical&#8217; team-lead. He could well be in charge of other team-leads who are actually the ones responsible for executing projects. I personally don&#8217;t find a great anomaly in there. And Bill gates might have proven his worth a couple of decades ago but as far as I know, he has been doing pure business management through out his tenure as microsoft&#8217;s COE. Another case in hand is the present CEO Steve Ballmer. Check out his career path, if it piques your curiosity.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I personally do favour someone with a technical grasp to be in place instead of raja parvez, who apparently doesn&#8217;t know anything about anything. But the point is that our experimentation with different organizational structures specifically during the past half century suggests that perspicacity, dedication and sincerity matter a lot more than mere technical expertise for the person at the top.</p>
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		<title>By: Anas Imtiaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anas Imtiaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Gates actually proved his worth before being on top. I have never heard about a technical project team leader with a non-technical background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Gates actually proved his worth before being on top. I have never heard about a technical project team leader with a non-technical background.</p>
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